Curse

Angel Netherborn · Aug 16, 2006, 08:10 AM // 08:10

Yea, every online game has their share of jerks, whiners, and noob callers. It has nothing to with age. It's just that in an anonymous environment like an online game, these people feel that they have no obligation to show courtesy and maintain politeness. Something in their life must be giving them repressed feelings and in the game, there's nothing really preventing them from lashing out. Or some people are just born or raised as jerks.

Terra Xin · Aug 16, 2006, 08:14 AM // 08:14

GW doesn't piss me off, it's the friggen community, too many anals there...

jackie · Aug 16, 2006, 09:12 AM // 09:12

I'm playing (well more like chatting & trading nowadays) in four different MMO's and the community isn't much different in any of them.

I remember when I tryied one fantasy based MMO, I made a healer type priest. Well, I noticed that priests were rare class and every adventuring group was always looking for one. Me, newbie priest then joined one group to secure some ancient tower. I said to the group that I was new in game and learned that they were also.

Things went normally, not much of a talk between the group though. Then I got an invitation from the leader of the group to join his guild. Well, I was like "oh well first day in this game, might be good to hook up with some helpful players". Oh boy did I make a wrong decision there. ^_^

I didn't manage to keep our party alive at one point and got flamed so badly by the whole group and the leader kicked me from the guild instantly.

From that moment, I've built my own little ward against jerks/impolite people.

samifly · Aug 16, 2006, 09:12 AM // 09:12

I would have to agree...there is *something* that is stressing out alot of people in GW. the game that is. no answer to what it is though.

Cebe · Aug 16, 2006, 10:27 AM // 10:27

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Originally Posted by samifly

I would have to agree...there is *something* that is stressing out alot of people in GW. the game that is. no answer to what it is though.

Well, I have that answer! The answer is as follows:

Error Code=007
Error Code=013
Error Code=040

enough said!

I play Guild Wars every evening after work to unwind but last night took the piss. I got Error 40 followed by more error 13s than you can shake a stick at! I got....urm....very cross and Anet got some very nasty emails!!

As for the people playing the game, I find the Tyrian continent a lot worse than the Canthan continent... It's the whole thing about bonus missions over there...that's when people seem to get too "anal"...seems to be for the following reasons:

1. Not everyone in the group is aware that some members want to do the bonus, so at the point where the group would go off to do the bonus people tend to split up and argue.
2. If a broup is gearing up for "bonus only" they NEVER tell new group members, who think the group is for the mission as well.
3. Tyrian "mission and bonus" groups are really picky. I was in Dunes of Dispair last night and tried the mission about 5 times, left for a while to do Thrsty River, and came back. There was a Ranger in a group of 5 looking for a monk with Necrotic Traversal (I'm an N/Mo - with necrotic traversal). I assumed he wouldn't take me since I am a Necro and he wanted a monk. about 20 mins passed as the team I got into tried to scrape together two monks...The Ranger was still spamming that he wasted a monk with necrotic traversal. So I whispered to him to ask if he would take me but I got no response. About another 10 minutes went past and just as our team was about to head into the mission he put up a message, generally saying that he would take anyone with necrotic traversal. I just thought "bad luck mate"...when we failed the mission he was still there....but I decided to Hench the mission since I was sick of human groups and not too bothered about the bonus and completed it not a problem.

(sorry, that was a bit long....where was I...)

4. The Tyrian mission groups also seem to get very cross if you do not have the skills they expect you to bring - who do they think they are to dictate my skill bar to me?

The Canthan groups can be the same when they are going spefically to get Masters. However, unlike the Tyrian mission towns, there always seems to be people in the Canthan ones who just want to do the mission, in the Tyrian mission towns, everyone is "bonus only" - I guess it's because everyone has done it so many times before.

Hephaestus Ram · Aug 16, 2006, 11:01 AM // 11:01

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Originally Posted by lg5000

LOL, kicking your wife from a group is just plain nasty. I'm sure you found out after that that was a bad move?

I enjoy hearing stories of when GW first came out, and all the really weird/cool builds were used... back when you could die to firestorm. Most people have some horror story of a build they've run to tell.. simple things like equipping a weapon they're not specced in, landing in a mission with skills missing... sometimes, you just have to ask the annoyingly impatient/always correct person if they remember when they first started to play

Personally, my monk thought divine boon was an AWSOME skill on a healer bar.. and had no understanding of energy managment or where to run if getting attacked

Yeah, she's not going to let me forget that for a long time.
Since I formed the group I felt obliged to get the mission done successfully. She was
a ranger and insisted on doing the pulling, but kept using a shortbow because she
liked it's stats. Unfortunately she kept getting snared by Ice Prison and then mobbed
by warriors, of course, I couldn't resist going to help her and we all wound up dead.
She thought it was funny, but the rest of the group wasn't very amused.
Fooling around when we're by ourselves or with henches is ok. But I didn't think it
right to subject other people that wanted to get on their way to our antics. So when
we got back to town I decided to just boot her, grab someone else, and finish the
mission. I guess I'm not the brightest crayon in the box.

Snowman · Aug 16, 2006, 11:33 AM // 11:33

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Originally Posted by majoho

The game is infested with 12 year olds with no attention span and no ability to communicate.

Ive been online gaming for over 15 years every single game is exactly the same!.. Guildwars is no exception... and actually, the younger gamers are usually the least stressed of all of them.

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Originally Posted by majoho

I play with henchies only for the same reason, I can't be bothered with crap like that.

then whats the point in playing an online game?.. if everyone took this attitude there would be no guilds or alliances what so ever.

Of course you get nobs in pugs, but generally speaking they are few and far between.. I've recruited nearly everyone in my 70 strong guild from pugging over the past 15 months, if I only ever took henchies, I would never meet people let alone form a good guild.

And if you think PvE is bad.. PvP is even worse! however in pvp people come to expect and accept it because its the only way of disciplining someone.

Ado · Aug 16, 2006, 11:48 AM // 11:48

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Originally Posted by Snowman

And if you think PvE is bad.. PvP is even worse! however in pvp people come to expect and accept it because its the only way of disciplining someone.

QFT, especially when playing monk. Either you get praised for keeping your party alive or you get flamed if someone dies.

In higher ranked groups the level of intolerancy rises to such a level sometimes, that after making a single mistake a flamefest begins that makes your ears wanna fall off.

CorstedPirate · Aug 16, 2006, 12:01 PM // 12:01

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Originally Posted by Hephaestus Ram

Yeah, she's not going to let me forget that for a long time.
Since I formed the group I felt obliged to get the mission done successfully. She was
a ranger and insisted on doing the pulling, but kept using a shortbow because she
liked it's stats. Unfortunately she kept getting snared by Ice Prison and then mobbed
by warriors, of course, I couldn't resist going to help her and we all wound up dead.
She thought it was funny, but the rest of the group wasn't very amused.
Fooling around when we're by ourselves or with henches is ok. But I didn't think it
right to subject other people that wanted to get on their way to our antics. So when
we got back to town I decided to just boot her, grab someone else, and finish the
mission. I guess I'm not the brightest crayon in the box.

She blew a gasket eh? I must admitt there have been times in which I have been helping my boyfriend with a mission and wished he'd just go afk or something so that I could just finish it real quick. Of course I'd never be so bold as to kick him after he caused a mission failure. LMAO!!!

majoho · Aug 16, 2006, 12:10 PM // 12:10

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Originally Posted by Snowman

Ive been online gaming for over 15 years every single game is exactly the same!.. Guildwars is no exception... and actually, the younger gamers are usually the least stressed of all of them.

And I didn't say they were stressed just lacking in social skills and patience.

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Originally Posted by Snowman

then whats the point in playing an online game?.. if everyone took this attitude there would be no guilds or alliances what so ever.

I agree with your point, and I'm not suggesting anyone else does it as well - this was only a statement aboy ME.
Personally I have a low threshold for taking stupid crap (that's a flaw as well), so I'd rather just play with henchies whenever I can. But back when I started playing GW I was in a real nice mature guild, I then left GW for almost a year and since I came back I haven't really felt the need for finding a new one.

WasAGuest · Aug 16, 2006, 01:23 PM // 13:23

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Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

As for the people playing the game, I find the Tyrian continent a lot worse than the Canthan continent... It's the whole thing about bonus missions over there...that's when people seem to get too "anal"...seems to be for the following reasons:

....

I actually found the exact opposite. People on Cantha are so anal about the whole timed mission thing and the "gogogo! hurry noobs!" and those poor fools that either are having a convultion or just a nervous finger and pinging the map 1,000 times within the span of 5 seconds is just annoying beyond belief. When they start doing that, any guildie I'm with and I start pinging the map just as fast in other areas... just to annoy them as much as they are annoying us. Then, since you can't bypass the more annoying missions you are effectively stuck there till you get lucky with a good group of non-idiots; till then, the players there are getting stressed and sick of doing the mission over and over again.
I found in Tyria though, getting the fire isle missions with bonus done was nearly imposible with PuGs anymore. Fools would run off without a word to unlock a section of the map and drop, get the bonus and drop, grab the cap and drop; even after joining the group and telling them the group was there for mission and bonus. But in Tyria, the people are much more laid back from what I have seen. Since you've found opposite, chances are, they are equally mixed on both chapters.

Silent Kitty · Aug 16, 2006, 01:28 PM // 13:28

I'm tired of running the same Canta road over and over again. I don't call them quests, but errants. It is no fun at all, because the rewards are not even worth it. Stressing indeed. Every time when I see a new npc with a quest, I sigh.
I wonder how many quests one can get in Kaineng alone.

Fist_of_God · Aug 16, 2006, 01:29 PM // 13:29

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Originally Posted by Hephaestus Ram

I kicked my wife from a group a while back... I have no defence.

lol..Now that takes some ballz! Kudos

Sekkira · Aug 16, 2006, 01:31 PM // 13:31

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Originally Posted by Silent Kitty

I'm tired of running the same Canta road over and over again. I don't call them quests, but errants. It is no fun at all, because the rewards are not even worth it. Stressing indeed. Every time when I see a new npc with a quest, I sigh.
I wonder how many quests one can get in Kaineng alone.

Why do people take 1 quest at a time?

Silent Kitty · Aug 16, 2006, 01:34 PM // 13:34

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Originally Posted by Sekkira

Why do people take 1 quest at a time?

Smart people don't. These quests are so close together, that you can almost do them all at once. Do you find that challenging, amusing, exiting, or inspiring to do more quests?

penguo · Aug 16, 2006, 01:36 PM // 13:36

[QUOTE=majoho]And I didn't say they were stressed just lacking in social skills and patience.

I like how you generalize all 12-13 year olds. I'm bearly 13, but never swear or anything. I've had people think im 30+, because I'm responsible and a very good player.so please dont say that it's loaded with little kids who ruin everything.

Sekkira · Aug 16, 2006, 01:42 PM // 13:42

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Originally Posted by Silent Kitty

Smart people don't. These quests are so close together, that you can almost do them all at once. Do you find that challenging, amusing, exiting, or inspiring to do more quests?

No but I don't see it as stressful either. Stressful is having a quest where you have 20 cantha style bosses pile on top of you and spam fireball.

Addone_Abaddon · Aug 16, 2006, 01:53 PM // 13:53

The reason younger ones, speaking for myself, are more stressed OCCASIONALLY is because of our age, think about it, we have, not as important things to worry about, but fairly stressful things to worry about considering our age, such as school, puberty, friends and so on..

even though it sounds pathetic, it isn't if you actually are going through that.

samifly · Aug 16, 2006, 08:43 PM // 20:43

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Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

The Canthan groups can be the same when they are going spefically to get Masters. However, unlike the Tyrian mission towns, there always seems to be people in the Canthan ones who just want to do the mission, in the Tyrian mission towns, everyone is "bonus only" - I guess it's because everyone has done it so many times before.

Well, getting masters implys completing the mission, which is probably why you find more people wanting to do them, then in Tyria.

quiarrah · Aug 16, 2006, 08:58 PM // 20:58

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Originally Posted by Fist_of_God

lol..Now that takes some ballz! Kudos

LOL. . .My husband has kicked me form EQ MANY TIMES. . . we go play our separate ways. I would rather be in the same room with him doing my own thing than be in the same group withhim and have him yell at me for some stupid game! LOL. . .